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INTV vs the 2600: which processor was faster?
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THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-09 07:08:35 UTC
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Which processor was faster? The Intellivision's or the 2600's. Off hand I would
guess that the 2600's processor was faster, just like the Genesis blast
processer was faster than the SNES.

"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
Chuck Whitby
2004-09-09 07:32:03 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Which processor was faster? The Intellivision's or the 2600's. Off
hand I would guess that the 2600's processor was faster, just like the
Genesis blast processer was faster than the SNES.
The Intv has a 16-bit GI 1610 processor, the clock speed has been reported
at a wide variance. The BSR's report it at 1MHz, another website says
895KHz, yet another says 3.58MHz. My guess is that it's between 850KHz and
1MHz. The 2600, IIRC, has an 8-bit 6507 processor at around 1.7MHz.
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Chuck Whitby
2004-09-09 07:35:17 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Which processor was faster? The Intellivision's or the 2600's. Off
hand I would guess that the 2600's processor was faster, just like
the Genesis blast processer was faster than the SNES.
The Intv has a 16-bit GI 1610 processor, the clock speed has been
reported at a wide variance. The BSR's report it at 1MHz, another
website says 895KHz, yet another says 3.58MHz. My guess is that it's
between 850KHz and 1MHz. The 2600, IIRC, has an 8-bit 6507 processor
at around 1.7MHz.
Follow-up - Talking to one of my tech buddies, they have confirmed that the
Intv's clock speed is 894.88636KHz, so basically 895KHz.
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intvsteve
2004-09-10 04:55:28 UTC
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Post by Chuck Whitby
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Which processor was faster? The Intellivision's or the 2600's. Off
hand I would guess that the 2600's processor was faster, just like
the Genesis blast processer was faster than the SNES.
The Intv has a 16-bit GI 1610 processor, the clock speed has been
reported at a wide variance. The BSR's report it at 1MHz, another
website says 895KHz, yet another says 3.58MHz. My guess is that it's
between 850KHz and 1MHz. The 2600, IIRC, has an 8-bit 6507 processor
at around 1.7MHz.
Follow-up - Talking to one of my tech buddies, they have confirmed that the
Intv's clock speed is 894.88636KHz, so basically 895KHz.
The Inty's processor runs on a divide down of the NTSC clock signal. I think
the PAL consoles actually ran at 1MHz, since the PAL signal has a 4MHz base.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 05:20:48 UTC
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Post by intvsteve
The Inty's processor runs on a divide down of the NTSC clock signal. I think
the PAL consoles actually ran at 1MHz, since the PAL signal has a 4MHz base.
So the games in England run faster?
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-09 07:44:15 UTC
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Post by Chuck Whitby
The Intv has a 16-bit GI 1610 processor, the clock speed has been reported
at a wide variance. The BSR's report it at 1MHz, another website says
895KHz, yet another says 3.58MHz. My guess is that it's between 850KHz and
1MHz. The 2600, IIRC, has an 8-bit 6507 processor at around 1.7MHz.
Thanks Chuck. IIRC, the Super NES had a processor speed clocked in at around
3.58 MHz as well. (I remember this because they did a side by side comparison
in EGM back in 1991 or so..) I think the Genesis was like double that or
something.

"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
2004-09-09 18:11:27 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Post by Chuck Whitby
The Intv has a 16-bit GI 1610 processor, the clock speed has been reported
at a wide variance. The BSR's report it at 1MHz, another website says
895KHz, yet another says 3.58MHz. My guess is that it's between 850KHz and
1MHz. The 2600, IIRC, has an 8-bit 6507 processor at around 1.7MHz.
Thanks Chuck.
Please keep in mind that processor speed is not the end all and be all
when it comes to measuring performance. Particularly since you're
comparing an 8-bit processor to a 16-bit one. I don't have the
background to say which is more powerful or performs better, but do
keep it in mind.
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
If you're going to include a quote in your .sig, the least you could
do is include who said it. Not to mention spell "their" right. (And
can I say I disagree and am guessing you are not a parent without
causing a flamewar? Probably not, so I won't. Wait, I already did.
Oops.)
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"They keep the games alive. If the games haven't been upgraded, they
have little commercial value, so the possibility of revenue loss is
not relevent." -- Nolan Bushnell, on emulators (_Maxim_, Dec 2001)
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-09 20:16:52 UTC
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Post by lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
If you're going to include a quote in your .sig, the least you could
do is include who said it. Not to mention spell "their" right. (And
can I say I disagree and am guessing you are not a parent without
causing a flamewar? Probably not, so I won't. Wait, I already did.
Oops.)
When parents bring a child into the world it is an extention of them. Thier #1
job is to make sure the children do not inconvenience others. If the children
DO cause problems in the world, it is THEM causing the problems by proxy since
the children are an extention of themselves. I was looking at houses the other
day and drove down a cul de sac where some asshole parent had set up a full
service "hockey rink" in the street, complete with the nets, etc. The parent
has absolutely NO consideration for the poor bastards who are inconvenienced by
merely getting in and out of thier driveway. Or when some asshole puts a
fucking basketball hoop out in the street and everyone has to listen to all the
noise and pre-pubescent voices screaming at the top of thier lungs all day.
Here's an idea: TAKE YOUR KIDS TO THE FUCKING PARK, so that YOU are the one
inconvenienced and not your neighbors!!!

These people are lucky I don't live by them, I'd be putting a stop to it quick.

"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
Ruiner71
2004-09-09 20:38:53 UTC
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On 9/9/2004, 3:16 PM Central Standard Time, ***@aol.com (THE SPACE
BOSS) stopped watching colorized Laurel and Hardy episodes long enough to
utter:

<<"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else">>

How come your parents didn't follow this advice? =P
Kevin
2004-09-09 21:30:29 UTC
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Post by Ruiner71
BOSS) stopped watching colorized Laurel and Hardy episodes long enough to
<<"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else">>
How come your parents didn't follow this advice? =P
LOL




contact:

http://profiles.yahoo.com/kevstar242
intvsteve
2004-09-10 04:55:25 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Post by lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
If you're going to include a quote in your .sig, the least you could
do is include who said it. Not to mention spell "their" right. (And
can I say I disagree and am guessing you are not a parent without
causing a flamewar? Probably not, so I won't. Wait, I already did.
Oops.)
When parents bring a child into the world it is an extention of them. Thier #1
job is to make sure the children do not inconvenience others. If the children
DO cause problems in the world, it is THEM causing the problems by proxy since
the children are an extention of themselves. I was looking at houses the other
day and drove down a cul de sac where some asshole parent had set up a full
service "hockey rink" in the street, complete with the nets, etc. The parent
has absolutely NO consideration for the poor bastards who are
inconvenienced by
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
merely getting in and out of thier driveway. Or when some asshole puts a
fucking basketball hoop out in the street and everyone has to listen to all the
noise and pre-pubescent voices screaming at the top of thier lungs all day.
Here's an idea: TAKE YOUR KIDS TO THE FUCKING PARK, so that YOU are the one
inconvenienced and not your neighbors!!!
These people are lucky I don't live by them, I'd be putting a stop to it quick.
"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
The their / there / they're confusion so many suffer from is also a pet
peeve of mine... Same w/ your / you're.

To the off-topic: The mere existance of a human - child or otherwise -
imposes inconvenience on other humans. We all consume resources, produce
waste, etc. Ultimately, we all inconvenience others, and regularly. I
convenienced may strangers on the drive to work today because I was ahead of
them in traffic, certainly causing some of them to have to sit through an
extra red light that they'd not have had to had I not been there. Guess we
should all go drink some of that Jonesy Kool-Aid right now and be done with
it. Oh, wait, that would inconvenience the folks who would be stuck cleaning
up our corpses.

As a child, you never inconvenienced others? Was that your parents' primary
mission? Is that how they described parenthood? How sad. Also, when does the
moratorium on inconveniencing others expire? When you're legally an adult,
is it then permissible to inconvenience others?

As to your tirade about the hockey net... Hmm... Wonder if maybe the other
asshole parents and fucking kids that also live in that goddamned shithole
cul-de-sac might have been fucking stupid enough to drag their snotty, sorry
little asses outside to all play TOGETHER? Stupid little shits should just
be put into camps and kept out of sight. Fucking stupid cul-de-sac-ers being
all damned ... neighborly! God forbid the people that actually live there -
or their families - should ever interact.

Sorry, but as a parent, there's almost nothing more irritating than having
your singularly most important duty in life - raising your kids - ridiculed
by the clueless. Before dispensing advice on parenting, you need some
credentials.

If this is a quote, than you should indicate it is such. If it's a funny
line, it certainly doesn't come across as one. Given your reaction, it
doesn't seem like you're delivering it as a funny line, either.

Rarely do inflammatory sigs rile me enough to rant on them, but this one
does.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 05:31:21 UTC
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Post by intvsteve
To the off-topic: The mere existance of a human - child or otherwise -
imposes inconvenience on other humans. We all consume resources, produce
waste, etc. Ultimately, we all inconvenience others, and regularly.
Right... but what I'm saying is that parents should not go out of thier way to
turn a public street into a hockey rink or let thier child scream or throw a
tantrum in a movie, store, or other public place. They need to remove the kid
from the movie house, the store, or wherever the kid is making a ruckis. If
that means the parent doesn't get to see the film or shop, TOUGH.
Post by intvsteve
As to your tirade about the hockey net... Hmm... Wonder if maybe the other
asshole parents and fucking kids that also live in that goddamned shithole
cul-de-sac might have been fucking stupid enough to drag their snotty, sorry
little asses outside to all play TOGETHER? Stupid little shits should just
be put into camps and kept out of sight. Fucking stupid cul-de-sac-ers being
all damned ... neighborly! God forbid the people that actually live there -
or their families - should ever interact.
What about the poor bastard who gets caught in the middle of it all?
Post by intvsteve
Rarely do inflammatory sigs rile me enough to rant on them, but this one
does.
Steve, let me be real clear on something. I think that parents need to be held
responsable for the actions of thier children 100%. If a kid vandalizes a
building, etc., I believe that instead of the taxpayers paying for it, the
parent should be forced to mortgage his home if need be and foot the bill. If
he/she doesn't like that, well, that's the real responsability that comes from
having children. I also am resentful that welfare programs allow people to have
more and more children and collect more and more benefits.
intvsteve
2004-09-10 06:56:17 UTC
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Post by intvsteve
To the off-topic: The mere existance of a human - child or otherwise -
imposes inconvenience on other humans. We all consume resources, produce
waste, etc. Ultimately, we all inconvenience others, and regularly.
let thier child scream or throw a
tantrum in a movie, store, or other public place. They need to remove the kid
from the movie house, the store, or wherever the kid is making a ruckis. If
that means the parent doesn't get to see the film or shop, TOUGH.
Obviously, there are times and places where a child's behavior is
unacceptable. (Adults' behavior too, for that matter. Cell phones anyone?)
If a parent is too selfish to take care of their child, and allows things
like this to happen, they're going to have a miserable life and raise
miserable kids. Sad.
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What about the poor bastard who gets caught in the middle of it all?
TOUGH. :-P
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Steve, let me be real clear on something. I think that parents need to be held
responsable for the actions of thier children 100%. If a kid vandalizes a
building, etc., I believe that instead of the taxpayers paying for it, the
parent should be forced to mortgage his home if need be and foot the bill. If
he/she doesn't like that, well, that's the real responsability that comes from
having children. I also am resentful that welfare programs allow people to have
more and more children and collect more and more benefits.
Now it's getting all socio-economic and political.=:O For 30 years or so
it's been drummed into everyone's heads that certain problems are societal
and not to be blamed on the individual. I agree with you on this. What a
crock. Nowadays, in some schools, kids can't run on playgrounds because they
might get hurt! A random google on this gives you stuff like this:
http://www.aps.edu/aps/mabinford/playgroundrules.html
http://www.njsbf.com/njsbf/student/eagle/spring03-5.cfm

You can't even bring in cookies or cupcakes for birthdays in some schools!
(Kids 'might get fat' - typical moronic administrative BS moves that are
crushed once anybody with a few brain cells to rub together does some basic
math on calories. Grr.!)

We live in an age of victimization. People get money from tobacco companies
because they smoked cigarettes for 30 years, despite every single fucking
pack of them warning them that they'll get cancer. Gunmakers pay settlements
to families of people 'killed by guns' because litigation is so ruinous.
(Odd... I thought that usually a gun is incapable of acting on its own ...
didn't someone pull the trigger? - aside from freak accidents.) (OH shit,
now the gun control topic has been broached.) People get fat because they
eat Super-sized fries and fast food and sit on their asses. But it's not
THEIR fault! It's the fast food company's fault for making the food. Sheesh!

I totally support personal responsibility, and that when a child does
something that damages property, etc. that the parents be held responsible.
This works fine until you run into cases where there are literally no
resources available for the parent to repay damages. They might be working
two jobs, living in a shithole, and unable to devote the time they need to
to their kids and barely have enough to live. What do you do then? Sadly,
there situations like this that are truly tragic, and not the fault of the
party being blamed - i.e. the 'special cases'. I think we've come to treat
the exception as the rule, though.

This is the last I'll post on this, as we're totally OT.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 07:12:33 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
What about the poor bastard who gets caught in the middle of it all?
TOUGH. :-P
See, this is the kind of attitude I don't care for Steve. The street is for
cars of the homeowners, not for children to play in and make a nuisance of
themselves. The parents should be providing thier kids with a membership or
transportation to some sort of open park where the children can play and not
disturb anybody.
Post by intvsteve
I totally support personal responsibility, and that when a child does
something that damages property, etc. that the parents be held responsible.
This works fine until you run into cases where there are literally no
resources available for the parent to repay damages. They might be working
The parent should work it off in community service.
Post by intvsteve
two jobs, living in a shithole, and unable to devote the time they need to
to their kids and barely have enough to live.
People should be ready to have children before they have them.



"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
Turbo-Torch
2004-09-11 20:57:55 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Post by intvsteve
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
What about the poor bastard who gets caught in the middle of it all?
TOUGH. :-P
See, this is the kind of attitude I don't care for Steve. The street is for
cars of the homeowners, not for children to play in and make a nuisance of
themselves. The parents should be providing thier kids with a membership or
transportation to some sort of open park where the children can play and not
disturb anybody.
Sounds like my parents neighborhood. About 2 years ago some idiots
two doors down moved in. They not only put out hockey nets but
dayglow orange and green barricades. Anytime I go there to visit I'd
have to sit there and wait while they took their time removing all the
crap from the street (while acting disgruntled). They also let their
2 and 3 year olds roam the street on their Fisher Price riding toys.
You have to creep around the curve in fear that some bably will be
playing in the street. What about strangers to the neighborhood that
aren't expecting that? The father lost his job and had to relocate,
house sold a few weeks ago and good riddance. Hopefully they move to
an area with no traffic so their kids have a better chance at making
it to adult hood.

I grew up there and yes I played in the street. When a car was
heading our way we got the hell out of the way. If anyone decided to
be funny or play tough guy and not move, all the neighbor had to do is
call our parents and the matter would be taken care of. Usually the
belt or not leaving the house for a few days was the solution.

Some parents still show responsibility. A few years ago I left my
truck parked in front of my moms house so that my brother-in-law could
borrow it the next day to pick something up.
About 9:00pm I get a phone call from my mom telling me some kids were
jumping on the truck and when she opened the front door they ran off.
At the time I lived only a mile away and was there in minutes. I went
apeshit...the hood of my beautiful blemish free truck was all dented
in. The truck is bright white and there was a perfect pattern of the
shoe tread on the hood. Took pictures and the next day I started
making rounds to every house in the neighborhood with kids. Finally
one girl happily ratted out who it was. I went there and talked to
the mother. She got her sons gym shoes and sure enough a perfect
pattern. He was out somewhere with his father.
That evening the father came by with the son (about 12) who was still
blubbering. The kid had the crap kicked out of him. They apologized
and the punk had the money about 2 weeks later. I was a little pissed
about how long it took but was happy to find out he had to sell his
bicycle and SNES to pay for it :)
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Post by intvsteve
I totally support personal responsibility, and that when a child does
something that damages property, etc. that the parents be held responsible.
This works fine until you run into cases where there are literally no
resources available for the parent to repay damages. They might be working
The parent should work it off in community service.
Post by intvsteve
two jobs, living in a shithole, and unable to devote the time they need to
to their kids and barely have enough to live.
People should be ready to have children before they have them.
Having a few kids and then falling on hard times and hitting welfare
is one thing. The fuckin' piece of shit welfare momma's that crank
out kid after kid while sponging off society need to be
sterilized....MANDATORY! Nip it in the bud and do away with
generation after generation of welfare sucking sponges.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-12 00:31:15 UTC
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Post by Turbo-Torch
Sounds like my parents neighborhood. About 2 years ago some idiots
two doors down moved in. They not only put out hockey nets but
dayglow orange and green barricades. Anytime I go there to visit I'd
have to sit there and wait while they took their time removing all the
crap from the street (while acting disgruntled). They also let their
2 and 3 year olds roam the street on their Fisher Price riding toys.
You have to creep around the curve in fear that some bably will be
playing in the street. What about strangers to the neighborhood that
aren't expecting that? The father lost his job and had to relocate,
house sold a few weeks ago and good riddance. Hopefully they move to
an area with no traffic so their kids have a better chance at making
it to adult hood.
I grew up there and yes I played in the street. When a car was
heading our way we got the hell out of the way. If anyone decided to
be funny or play tough guy and not move, all the neighbor had to do is
call our parents and the matter would be taken care of. Usually the
belt or not leaving the house for a few days was the solution.
Some parents still show responsibility. A few years ago I left my
truck parked in front of my moms house so that my brother-in-law could
borrow it the next day to pick something up.
About 9:00pm I get a phone call from my mom telling me some kids were
jumping on the truck and when she opened the front door they ran off.
At the time I lived only a mile away and was there in minutes. I went
apeshit...the hood of my beautiful blemish free truck was all dented
in. The truck is bright white and there was a perfect pattern of the
shoe tread on the hood. Took pictures and the next day I started
making rounds to every house in the neighborhood with kids. Finally
one girl happily ratted out who it was. I went there and talked to
the mother. She got her sons gym shoes and sure enough a perfect
pattern. He was out somewhere with his father.
That evening the father came by with the son (about 12) who was still
blubbering. The kid had the crap kicked out of him. They apologized
and the punk had the money about 2 weeks later. I was a little pissed
about how long it took but was happy to find out he had to sell his
bicycle and SNES to pay for it :)
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Post by intvsteve
I totally support personal responsibility, and that when a child does
something that damages property, etc. that the parents be held responsible.
This works fine until you run into cases where there are literally no
resources available for the parent to repay damages. They might be working
The parent should work it off in community service.
Post by intvsteve
two jobs, living in a shithole, and unable to devote the time they need to
to their kids and barely have enough to live.
People should be ready to have children before they have them.
Having a few kids and then falling on hard times and hitting welfare
is one thing. The fuckin' piece of shit welfare momma's that crank
out kid after kid while sponging off society need to be
sterilized....MANDATORY! Nip it in the bud and do away with
generation after generation of welfare sucking sponges.
VAIR, you must be my long-lost brother or something. I agree with absolutely
everything you say... Sorry about your truck. It's sad because if the parents
hadn't brought these pieces of shit into the world, then it would never have
happened. And I'll tell a parent that to their face: Look what your son did.
Now, if you hadn't brought him into the world, this wouldn't have happened.

"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 07:13:57 UTC
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OOPS pressed send to early.. anyway, see Steve we basically agree on many
things, and I don't want opinions of outside things getting in the way of our
relationship here.
Dr JOHN XX
2004-09-10 13:23:02 UTC
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Delurking again,
Smith/Spaceboss? From what i've read you live in socal.Now I agree with
kids out of control in in theaters,malls,well hell most public places. However
it seems to me that you ran in to a cul de sac where kids can actually play in
the streets! Didn't you ever do that when you were a kid?
Now I guess there are still places in the midwest where a kid can actually
play outside.......but they are becoming rare.
You claim that you went to arcades in your youth,yet you seem to be somewhat
introverted in the fact that you'd rather play alone in your house.I'm not sure
how old you are but I loved to play outdoors! and later arcades were dark
places where you could as a kid of 14-18 smoke,learn to hustle pool,drink beer
and meet chicks...(this was pre aids) play defender to the fabled zero wave and
be a hero! I'm 37 BTW so I was there . I digress, let those kids play!
Funny .......you rant on and on about your youth but you forget the fun of
Big wheels,street football.........from a song.........OI! Leave them kids
alone!
DrJohn.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 18:53:30 UTC
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Post by Dr JOHN XX
Delurking again,
Smith/Spaceboss? From what i've read you live in socal.Now I agree with
kids out of control in in theaters,malls,well hell most public places. However
it seems to me that you ran in to a cul de sac where kids can actually play in
the streets! Didn't you ever do that when you were a kid?
Yeah sure, but these parents now are over stepping their bounds by putting all
this crap in the streets. And I never once have heard a parent yell out the
door to their kids "Hey, keep it down, you may disturb the neighbors". Why
can't the parents take the kids someplace else to play hockey? These assholes
think the streed belongs to them and their "BROOD".. if you ask me, the parents
take a perverse "pride" in the children (who remember are but an extention of
themselves) "expanding their empire" to include the public streets. It's a
sickening form of personal manifest destiny.
Post by Dr JOHN XX
I'm 37 BTW so I was there . I digress, let those kids play!
I'm 37 too. Kids have sickening attitudes today. Not like when I was a kid,
I'll tell ya that.
Post by Dr JOHN XX
Funny .......you rant on and on about your youth but you forget the fun of
Big wheels,street football.........from a song.........OI! Leave them kids
alone!
I got no problem with kids as long as they are well behaved. And the only way
they will be well behaved is if they are directed to by thier source.
unknown
2004-09-10 15:03:10 UTC
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Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Post by lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
If you're going to include a quote in your .sig, the least you could
do is include who said it.
And for all the ranting done since I brought it up, you never answered
this. Shall I assume you came up with it on your own?
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
Post by lkseitz (Lee K. Seitz) .at. hiwaay @dot@ net
(And
can I say I disagree and am guessing you are not a parent without
causing a flamewar?
And now let me offer a formal apology to the group for baiting Space
Boss. I complain about his trolling and yet here I am doing exactly
the same thing. I guess he just brings that out in me.
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
When parents bring a child into the world it is an extention of them. Thier #1
job is to make sure the children do not inconvenience others.
No. Their (c'mon, spell it right) #1 job is to raise their kids to be
good human beings. If that occasionally inconveniences someone, too
bad. Yes, parents should *try* to keep their kids from being
disruptions, but that's not the highest priority.

This is all I have to say on the matter. I won't contiue this
off-topic thread here.
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THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-10 18:41:31 UTC
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No. Their (c'mon, spell it right)
I though it was "I" before "E" except after "C"..
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#1 job is to raise their kids to be
good human beings.
Which includes correcting them if they bother others.
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If that occasionally inconveniences someone, too
bad.
That kind of attitude will get you and your kids in trouble.
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Yes, parents should *try* to keep their kids from being
disruptions, but that's not the highest priority.
Sure it is.
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This is all I have to say on the matter. I won't contiue this
off-topic thread here.
I can tell some of you people don't like the idea of Parents taking
responsability for their children's actions, but you better get used to it,
because that's where things are heading big time.
Dave Ross
2004-09-10 18:54:14 UTC
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No. Their (c'mon, spell it right)
I though it was "I" before "E" except after "C"..
Or when sounded like "A" as in "neighbor" or "weigh"...
intvsteve
2004-09-11 03:02:52 UTC
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Post by unknown
No. Their (c'mon, spell it right)
I though it was "I" before "E" except after "C"..
Or when sounded like "A" as in "neighbor" or "weigh"...
Or when in words that don't follow those handy little rules:
Their
Heir
Weird
Either
Neither
.. and that's without using any search tools in about 10 seconds of
braingrind.

Ain't language grand?
unknown
2004-09-11 03:08:57 UTC
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Post by Dave Ross
Post by THE SPACE BOSS
I though it was "I" before "E" except after "C"..
Or when sounded like "A" as in "neighbor" or "weigh"...
Their
Heir
Weird
Either
Neither
.. and that's without using any search tools in about 10 seconds of
braingrind.
Ain't language grand?
"Their" and "heir" follow the "long a" rule. Most other exceptions that
don't fit the rule are the result of a change in pronunciation over time.
(Most had the "e" and "i" or "i" and "e" in separate syllables, for example,
but I would have to look up your specific examples to verify those in
particular.)

Dane.
Dr JOHN XX
2004-09-11 10:58:55 UTC
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Afutile attempt I'm sur but.Smith? you claimed you were house hunting...I
guess you have no kids.....(not surpising) but what the hell man? I guess you
have really lopst ouch with childhood. We are talking kids right? pre 13? let
em play! I guess you've become a yuppie somehow(maybe your BF-GF is rich) I
know your in SOCAL and I'm soorry bout that.But In NOCAL it's rare to see kids
playing outside.
I guess to keep this on topic ,I'll just say it's nice to hear that kids are
getting away from the TV and actually playing.This is called building Social
Skills. Rare indeed.To bad they don't have the arcades of old.Sure I picked up
some bad habits but in troubled financial times I can still make a quick 500.00
hustleing pool! A skill that has saved my ass many times. Of course kids now
don't fist or knife fight.nooooooooo they need a gun now! I should right a
book.Every thing I needed to know I learned in an arcade.
DrJohn.
THE SPACE BOSS
2004-09-11 19:37:47 UTC
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I guess to keep this on topic ,I'll just say it's nice to hear that kids are
getting away from the TV and actually playing.This is called building Social
Skills.
Building social skills is playing sports in the high school gymnasium or
football field, or at a boy scout ot girl scout meeting, or at a "day program"
for pre teens. Not making jackass nuisances of themselves in front of my
fucking house, thank you very much.

"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
a***@gmail.com
2016-05-23 17:06:07 UTC
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Post by Dr JOHN XX
I guess to keep this on topic ,I'll just say it's nice to hear that kids are
getting away from the TV and actually playing.This is called building Social
Skills.
Building social skills is playing sports in the high school gymnasium or
football field, or at a boy scout ot girl scout meeting, or at a "day program"
for pre teens. Not making jackass nuisances of themselves in front of my
fucking house, thank you very much.
"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
Tag

Jack Laughlin
2004-09-09 21:52:57 UTC
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Which processor was faster? The Intellivision's or the 2600's. Off hand I would
guess that the 2600's processor was faster, just like the Genesis blast
processer was faster than the SNES.
"The #1 job of every parent? That's easy: to make sure thier children don't
inconvenience anybody else"
Egads, Blast Processing was a marketing ploy. The Genesis had a
Motorolla 68k at its heart. They mae up the term "blast processing" to
make it sound cool.

Try reading some FAQs sometime, it will help you out.
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